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Poppy

I have seen both films.  I agree with the Academy’s choice.  Everything about No Country was spectacular—tight script, original elements, a very uncomfortable and hated ending (any movie that adds a hated ending instead of taking the easy way out DESERVES an award), and the cinematography was just breathtaking.

Also, Javier’s voice alone deserves a fucking award.  Num.  smiley


comment by Poppy  on  02/25  at  09:39 AM
Poppy

(I bet some people are going to argue that the hated ending *was* the easy way out; it wasn’t.  But please defend your position.  Thanks.)


comment by Poppy  on  02/25  at  09:40 AM
Avitable

I’m thinking it’s also the 55+ crowd that make up a majority of Academy voters.


comment by Avitable  on  02/25  at  10:26 AM
B.E. Earl

Haven’t seen either Juno or No Country, but I understand what you are saying about those films and the Academy’s take on them.

As for Brokeback Mountain, while I didn’t think it was the groundbreaker so much of America believed it to be, I did think that it was a better film, cinematically, than Crash.  Gorgeous to look at, and the slow pacing worked perfectly with the subject matter.  I still don’t think it was the best film of that particular year. A History of Violence, Good Night and Good Luck and even Transamerica were, imo, better films.  I thought Crash was a good film, but on a structural level it’s been done better before by other film makers.  Once again, in my opinion.  smile


comment by B.E. Earl  on  02/25  at  11:41 AM
NYC Watchdog

Poppy- Does this mean I’m going to actually hate the ending when I do see it???  Ugh.

Avi- I have to disagree with that… just watch the memorial tributes and look at all the votes lost FROM the Academy… and it generally results in new younger voters.  I think that the high number of technical voters (editors, sound mixers, F/X gurus) is highly underrated… and they don’t even get their awards that night!  They get a lunch.

B.E. Earl- I think the editing in Crash gave it the pace that really made the movie.  The one scene in particular with the locksmith outside of his house with the store owner holding the gun… that scene’s editing and sound engineering was phenomenal… and while others have tried to get the same effect, they rarely succeed.

“In each of us two natures are at war… the good and the evil. All our lives the fight goes on between them, but one of them must conquer. In our own hands lies the power to choose. What we want most to be we are.” – Dr. Henry Jekyll


comment by NYC Watchdog  on  02/25  at  12:58 PM
Avitable

If there was a majority of younger voters, Transformers would have won for visual fx instead of Golden Compass.


comment by Avitable  on  02/25  at  01:00 PM
NYC Watchdog

Mmmm… that’s a really good point… although I never did see Golden Compass.

The thing is… while what Michael Bay touches may be box office gold… its rarely Oscarable now since he’s burnt alot of bridges after Armageddon.  Both Pearl Harbor and The Island should have been winners too… but fell short in the eyes of the Academy.  He’ll be another Scorcese… he’ll get it in another 20 years.

“In each of us two natures are at war… the good and the evil. All our lives the fight goes on between them, but one of them must conquer. In our own hands lies the power to choose. What we want most to be we are.” – Dr. Henry Jekyll


comment by NYC Watchdog  on  02/25  at  01:08 PM
Poppy

I think you might respect the ending but it won’t sit exactly right, if that makes sense.  How about we just see it?

As for Transformers… UGH.  PLEASE.  Golden Compass is eye candy, Transformers was good for the first half but then totally sucked (in a bad way) for the end.  Then again, I bet Avi thinks I’m in the 55+ club.


comment by Poppy  on  02/25  at  01:21 PM
Avitable

Golden Compass is derivative of Narnia and LOTR - it had nothing new to offer.  Transformers was ground-breaking.


comment by Avitable  on  02/25  at  01:23 PM
Poppy

But you’re 31.  I’m just saying that the younger generation can get duped into thinking that eye candy is more important than quality.

But, I have to get in that dig every time that the second half of Transformers was awful.  So, yay me for getting one more say of it!


comment by Poppy  on  02/25  at  01:25 PM
Avitable

So you think that the younger generation got duped into thinking that Golden Compass was eye candy and therefore better?

I think the older generation didn’t bother watching Transformers.  They watched Golden Compass, though.


comment by Avitable  on  02/25  at  01:27 PM
Poppy

Because they’re a bunch of Christians who have to monitor the anti-Christ movies?


comment by Poppy  on  02/25  at  01:30 PM
Avitable

No, because that movie appealed to them.  Hence, the older Academy members screw over deserving movies.  Like Juno.

And the second half of Transformers is outstanding.


comment by Avitable  on  02/25  at  01:31 PM
Poppy

Because they’re Christians and Juno is one of those anti-Christ movies.

Teen pregnancy!


comment by Poppy  on  02/25  at  01:33 PM
Poppy

(Which would mean they love one anti-Christ movie but not the other.)


comment by Poppy  on  02/25  at  01:35 PM

I didn’t expect Juno to win.

BUT, if I would say that it DESERVED it - it would not have been because of it’s subject matter.

It would be because it was a superbly made movie.  It let the story happen… you just observed.  Nothing was forced.  It didn’t try too hard where it shouldn’t.  It pushed and pulled in all the right places, and let lie the moments that needed that.

The subtle genius of that movie was spectacular.


comment by Miss Britt  on  02/25  at  02:56 PM

I didn’t see any of the big movies of last year.  I didn’t see many things other than pg movies in the theaters, until Sweeney Todd came out- and that didn’t even reach my town till freaking January.  So I guess I’ll just have to wait for them to come out on Dvd.  We do have Transformers, but I have yet to watch it.


comment by Beth  on  02/25  at  06:25 PM

First off, congrats on the enormous success of Juno! Your film is well on its way to becoming the highest-grossing indie since My Big Fat Greek Wedding online marketing. Pretty soon your name will be whispered in the same breath as Nia Vardalos. Welcome to the big leagues, baby!


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