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Poppy

We are told not to be silent about things such as domestic violence.  Why would we then be silent about stopping the violence against people who identify as GLBTQ* or GLBTQ supporters?  I just don’t get this.  This is a mixed message.  “Break the silence, end the violence” is the motto I choose to follow.

And I wasn’t horribly bullied, just teased.  The moment I chose to talk back to the people teasing me was the moment that those people (whose names I remember but won’t call out here wink stopped teasing me.  I expect it just shocked the shit out of them that I opened my mouth to speak.

There is a time and place for silence, but I don’t think that this is that time or place.

(Just to be clear, the Q stands for Questioning.  Not everyone has figured themselves out yet, and where I come from we recognize the Q.)


comment by Poppy  on  04/25  at  01:10 PM

What the silence is also an indication of all the voices of those people who do not have the courage or ability to speak out - and to be open with themselves.

The silence is also for those people who are in the closet - who can’t speak because of the bullies - this is not to be silent and not talk about the crimes.


comment by An Cailin  on  04/25  at  02:13 PM
annie

When people speak up for themselves, or OTHERS, for that matter, right away, it shows they have self confidence and won’t be bullied. That can be so impossibly hard for children to do, and it’s easy for kids to fall into the “Mob” mentality.

I think bullying also has to do with the way a kid’s raised. We have to talk about certain things with them in a serious manner, even if something presents itself like a big joke, say a comedy show or a sitcom. We have plenty of opportunity for examples in our society to say to our kids, “That’s what lifestyle that person wants, who are we to say different? Just as WE want to live the way we want, and nobody can persecute us for it. Live and let live.” That’s how I raised my kids, I had “Zero Tolerance” for intolerance, and I must say, they’re very tolerant and open-minded people and didn’t bully or get bullied in school.

I’m always surprised at how intolerant even some of my so-called “friends” (acquaintances, really) are, or my husbands friends.  I do not ignore it, I always speak up. I love the chance to roll my eyes at an ignorant person and tell them what I think is stupid about what they said. Needless to say, I’ve lost a lot of “friends” that way and I say, “Good fucking RIDDANCE”. I don’t need some ignorant redneck in my life, who says ridiculous and embarrassing things. I would never closely associate with someone who’s a bigot.


comment by annie  on  04/25  at  02:20 PM
Avitable

Silence is always something I consider to be a form of acquiescence.


comment by Avitable  on  04/25  at  02:24 PM

Wow.  A totally different take on the whole silence thing, & I’ve got to say - makes perfect sense.

Well said.


comment by Tug  on  04/25  at  02:25 PM

I think it’s amazing that you found your voice yourself.  That’s rare.

It took me a long, long time to find my own voice.  And to be honest, I still resent like hell the people who stood by “silently” - claiming they didn’t want to “make it worse”.


comment by Miss Britt  on  04/25  at  03:38 PM

Thanks for this post darlin’.  I took a lot away from this that we can talk to the boys about.  There’s still so much work to do in our schools on both sides of the border.
Fortunately, there are some really inspirational stories too.  Like this one: http://bootcampfx.blogspot.com/2008/04/inspiration.html


comment by Karen Sugarpants  on  04/25  at  04:17 PM

Well said.  I couldn’t agree more.


comment by Glenda  on  04/25  at  06:09 PM

Well done. I have been silent on and off for most of my life. Can’t comment much more at this time. But your post has the gears in my head turning quite a bit. Thanks


comment by jake titus  on  04/25  at  07:23 PM

Anything at all that raises awareness is goodness.


comment by DeppFan  on  04/25  at  10:02 PM

I agree.  Silence doesn’t do that trick.

I was bullied for most of jr high years and on and off during high school. Even into my mid 30’s I was bullied. Kids do it because they want to look cool. Adults do it just to be mean.  I found a different crowd to hang out with, fought back with words to those who were bullying me and finally, for the first time in over 20 years I have not been bullied for going on 2 years.

Making your voice heard is the only way to solve any problem.


comment by DaDuck  on  04/26  at  01:11 AM

I think you’re missing the point.

It’s about raising awareness by doing something unexpected. It’s about making the kids around you realized that you can’t talk to them because you are dead, a victim of a hate crime. Agreeing to keep silent for a day is a way of showing your belief that bullying and intolerance is NOT ok. It’s not acquiescing or being passive at all. It’s exactly the opposite.

I’ve been the victim of bullies my entire life. I was a lower middle class fat gay choir nerd. Do you know what it would have meant to me as a 12 year old to find out that there were other people around me who were struggling with the same issues, or would have been supportive of me had they known I was gay?

Do you consider peaceful sit-in protests to be ineffective?

My Senior year we did a similar “awareness campaign” regarding drunk driving. A handful of students (myself included) were picked to participate. We painted black tears on our face and weren’t allowed to speak to anyone all day. There was a smashed up car on the front lawn of the school. Every 12 minutes (the statistic at that time of teens killed in Alcohol-related accidents) the sound of a car crash was played over the intercom. By the end of the day nearly everyone in the school was in tears.

Most effective scare tactic ever. Our class of 340 has only had 1 alcohol related death (even now 16 years later). The year before has had 9.

These campaigns really do work.


comment by jester  on  04/26  at  03:32 AM
NYC Watchdog

Poppy- It’s usually the shock that the targeted will not go quietly that puts the pause into the aggressor.  I’m glad you clarified the “Q” for me… for a second I thought it was a Star Trek Reference.

An Cailin- It may be an indicator, but will anyone ever notice if no one speaks up?

Annie- Intolerance, unfortunately, is usually a developement of the environment a person is immersed in.  If we can make our environments more tolerant, then the people will in all likelihood be more tolerant.

Avi- I agree… that is also how I’ve seen it… and myself have remained silent for the same reason.

Tug- Thanks!  There are just some things I’ll never see the same as other people… and being silent to “make a statement” is one of them.

Miss Britt- Well, I found my voice after an internal combustion that bordered on a psychotic breakdown.  Not necessarily “on my own"… but close enough I suppose.  I don’t resent those who stood by and watched… why blame them for not doing something I myself at the time was unwilling to do?

Karen- There is a lot to do worldwide to remedy this problem… and its not just in the schools, but in the home and government as well.

Glenda- Thanks!  I’m glad people can understand my view… ironically I expected some hatemail over this.

Jake Titus- I know what you mean about being silent on and off… I’ve slipped into that myself more recently… but that’s more of a conscious choice than a subconscious one.

DeppFan- I agree… raising awareness is key… as long as that’s what it is actually doing.  Being silent isn’t really raising anything… it’s just cutting back on the noise.

Da Duck- It’s a matter of making your voice heard AND being listened to that matters.  If a tree falls in the woods, and no one’s around to hear it, does it make a sound?

Jester- I actually do understand the point, I just don’t agree with the method behind trying to make the point.  I do consider peaceful sit-ins to be effective… just because they are peaceful doesn’t mean that they are quiet about their cause.  Sit-ins are usually accompanied by signs, songs, and chants to make their message heard.

Your senior year “awareness campaign” (possibly taken from a SADD or MADD handbook, because we had something very similar in my own high school as well… no tears though… just people walking around with car parts sticking out of their heads and moulaged wounds) had three key components to it for effectiveness.  It used the visual of the car wreck, with the audible of the crash sound, and the interaction of the students with the students that were “marked as dead” which is what resulted in what sounds like a successful campaign.  Had one of those elements been missing, in all likelihood the success would be questionable.  Unfortunately, with this DOS campaign, all I have seen is interaction with the students remaining silent.  There is no stunning visual or audible effect to remind people of the interaction repeatedly.  Repetition is often key, because we as a society have for the most part have become attention deficient.

How can you find people who are having the same issues or would have been supportive if in fact you remained silent?  It would be dependent on them to break that silence so that others knew that they were there… but what if they never did?  If they never did speak up… then we’d still be living in the world of Laura Ingalls… pigtails and all.

While I’m all for pigtails… I’m not for the rest of that closed minded crap.

“In each of us two natures are at war… the good and the evil. All our lives the fight goes on between them, but one of them must conquer. In our own hands lies the power to choose. What we want most to be we are.” – Dr. Henry Jekyll


comment by NYC Watchdog  on  04/26  at  12:48 PM

There seems to be a disconnect here. Your post even points out the cards that the students hand out to others explaining their participation. Is that not visual? Is that not something tangible that gets handed to someone and forces them to analyze their own feelings? A classroom full of silent students is unnerving. You seem to be mistaking this “silence” for cowardice. It’s exactly the opposite.

Think of the students who are participating, who are experiencing a metaphorical taste of what it’s like to not be able to talk about things that matter to them.

If I’m not mistaken, you didn’t grow up gay. Being bullied for being fat is vastly different from the subtle hatred you get from being gay. People who would otherwise never tease you for your weight have no qualms about fag jokes, especially if they don’t know you’re gay.  Had my school participated in this day of silence, I would have known who I could trust. I would have been exposed to the groups of people who were either gay themselves or friendly to the idea.

Why? Because they were participating in this event. Actively being silent.

They are speaking up by NOT speaking up. It’s irony. It’s also effective, despite your protestations. Do a google search for the brou-ha-ha that happened in Lincoln Nebraska over this event.

For that matter, look through the materials on the dayofsilence.org website and see how many schools are participating. Every person on that list is one more person who is actually doing something to make a difference.

I understand that you think we should be screaming from the rooftops and yelling our protests, but we’re talking about a program that is targeting teens and pre-teens who may not be strong enough to find that voice. I know from experience that it is hard to be loud when the entire world is seemingly disapproving of your existence.


comment by jester  on  04/26  at  04:45 PM

Shouldn’t that be what we do all the other 364 days of the year? Of course stick up, stick up every day, not just one - the one day is to show acknowledgment silently for those people who are afraid to speak out.

The silence is a wink and a knod, silently, as many would prefer it that way that we understand their pain and know why they are kiding. It is saying that we love, and accept them - on their terms.


comment by An Cailin  on  04/26  at  10:50 PM
NYC Watchdog

Jester- I did point out the use of the cards in my post, because that is what the students are doing.  Are the cards effective?  I honestly don’t know… but living in a city where every street corner you come to a different flier gets shoved into your hand has taught me that as soon as it hits the hand, it is most likely shoved in a back pocket or thrown in the garbage to be forgotten.  I can only hope that those cards would be enough… but I don’t think they would resonate as other methods would.

Has being a teenager so radically changed in the 14 years since I was one?  There were TONS of things that I felt I couldn’t talk about that mattered to me.  I tend to think there still are those things… and the existence of bullying in general lends credibility to that distinctly extreme possibility.

Admittedly, I did not grow up being gay, nor am I gay today.  I do think that you are mistaken when you say that there is a vast difference between being teased for being fat and being gay in a setting that openly mocked the lifestyle.  No matter which way you cut it, they are both forms of bullying.  The difference being that I had a target on my back, while whether people knew you were gay or not was a choice you made.

As for being able to identify allies through silence… well what about Pride events?  I know that there were a number of after-school events at my school, but I also know I am in New York which has for the most part been more progressive than other parts of the country.  Again, since I did not grow up under these conditions, I will bow to your first hand knowledge on its benefit to those looking for allies.  Personally, since I’m not the swiftest of the litter, I usually look for the neon sign.

For whatever reason, I can’t find the Lincoln, Nebraska story.  I have read stories about Arizona, Seattle, Kanaka, and the University of Virginia (where it supposedly originated).  It’s a pretty fair mix… the gauntlet from events with no incidents to events with crusading Reverends on the front lawn shouting down the meaning of the day while only 2/3 of the student population attended school.  This is a telling tale indeed… because while it shows that acceptance has improved… there is still alot of work to be done.  Unfortunately, it isn’t only here that we need to continue progressively.  We need to be progressive of tolerance of everyone irregardless of race, gender, sexual preference, religious belief, and physical traits.  Believe it or not… there are some people who still think a woman or a black man shouldn’t be president… and they will vote according to that belief even though the two Democratic front runners happen to represent both groups.

While I personally do not see a value in maintaining silence over such an issue… it is obvious that you do see value in it, and I’m glad you weren’t silent about that.

An Cailin- The silence is a wink and a nod, as many would prefer it that way that we understand their pain and know why they are k(h)iding. I can’t help but feel that the best way to show support for them would be to end their pain… and speaking up is the only way I can see as doing that.  Otherwise you are insinuating that it is okay to be false not only to the rest of the world… but most likely to themselves as well.  If remaining in hiding is the only way to survival, then that is understandable because the wrong being perpetrated is by society and not by them… but one should not be encouraged to hide from themselves.

Doing so not only will hurt them… but others down the road.

“In each of us two natures are at war… the good and the evil. All our lives the fight goes on between them, but one of them must conquer. In our own hands lies the power to choose. What we want most to be we are.” – Dr. Henry Jekyll


comment by NYC Watchdog  on  04/28  at  12:47 AM

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